the only one who m.a.s. -- who encouraged those dreams. and his fiancee at the time, mugs cleaver, she left him over his dream of going to hollywood. he told his friends, though, there in dixon, ill., within five years i will be making $5,000 per week, which at the time was an astronomical figure. and he made it. just under the wire he got a contract in hollywood. >> do you believe in the american dream? >> that is a good question. i do not think i believe in it as wholeheartedly as he did because i think i have a perception that there are some people for whom the american dream is a very distant prospect. there is some -- there are some people for whom the american dream is much more difficult to attain. >> it is literally a dream? >> it is literally a dream, by virtue of the circumstances of their birth, their race, or even gender to some extent.